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« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2017, 10:14:52 AM »
Hmm, parca o cautasem in Torque temperatura uleiului si nu o gasisem, dar nu bag mana in foc. DAR, are subaru by default senzor de temperatura ulei??? Ca parca trebuia pus aftermarket pe nu stiu unde... sau confund eu niste treburi.
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« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2017, 10:16:40 AM »
Dupa 2008 au facut si ei pasul spre technologie. La Outback este. La WRX nu aveam.

Teoretic dupa 2008 toate au, cel putin benzinarele.

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« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2017, 10:21:15 AM »
  Din ce am gasit Outback 2.5i nu are senzor temperatura ulei, se poate monta daca se scoate un dop de pe blocul motor de undeva de sub clapeta acceleratie. Senzorul din fata care este aproximativ sub alternator este sonda de presiune ulei.

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« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2017, 10:32:02 AM »
Cum spuneam, incepand cu 2008 este. Adica am vazut cu ochisorii mei in Romraider si comparam temperatura apei cu cea a antigelului.

Cred ca este nr. 1, daca nu cumva este pentru antigel acela. http://opposedforces.com/parts/legacy/en_b13/type_50/engine/cylinder_head/illustration_4/
Are acelasi cod, probabil senzor de acelasi tip. Aici vad ca este cel de antigel, pe conducta montata deasupra blocului: http://opposedforces.com/parts/legacy/en_b13/type_50/cooling_system/water_pipe_1/illustration_5/

Deci primul trebuie sa fie de ulei.

Desi, nici nu conteaza care sau unde este. Important este ca OBD-ul poate da aceasta informatie.
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« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2017, 10:36:59 AM »
ca aplicatie http://www.btssm.com/ poate fi configurat sa citeasca toate informatiile pe care le poti loga si in romraider logger .... pe scurt adresele din definitiile romraider le poti defini si in btssm

dau cu copy paste un mic tutorial in engleza mai jos:



What you will need:
•Android Phone or Tablet (I am using an older LG G3 as a test, running android 5.0.1)
•Btssm app ( http://www.btssm.com/ )
•OTG cable and tactrix or btssm bluetooth dongle (I am using OTG usb cable and the Tactrix)
•(optional) Flex Convertor speed density harness with 5v input (discontinued??)

As Carberry is based off a JDM ECU with the ecu id of 3D04EA4605, it shares lots of the memory read definitions off that ECU. However, you will need to input custom definitions for specific Carberry stuff (like ethanol content)

In Field Chooser, you go to Add at the top right, this will allow you to add a custom field. Using Ethanol % as an example.

1.Name you will input is Ethanol (%) (or E (%) basically whatever you want to call it)
 2. Addr (hex) (this is where you tell the program to start looking at on the ECU’s memory to find the value we are interested in, in hex value) which is: 021030
 3. Length is how long (bytes) the information is so it knows what address to read up to) which is: 2
 4. For formula, you are telling it how to interpret that value found starting in 021030 and ending 2 bytes later: x/655.36 (where x is the value found in the 2 bytes from 021030)
 5. Decimal places are to display how many decimal places to display. 1 is like 10.0, where 2 would be 10.00. 1 is sufficient
 6. If all you want is the text readout, you can zero everything else (gauge min, max, #) and hit save. It will still read and log perfectly. But if you want to have the option to have the gauge style readout, follow the optional steps.

Optional steps: For those wanting the gauge display

1. Gauge min set at 0 (this is the lowest value the gauge display will read)
 2. Gauge max set at 85-90 (this is the highest value the gauge display will read)
 3. Gauge # every set at 5 or 10 depending on how you want it to be broken down.

Again, this is optional, doesn't affect logging or the text output.

Now the best part, because we can add custom definitions, we can use the 5v input from the maf as an input for sensors if you are on speed density. Those of you that have TGV inputs you can also use those (if your TGVs are deleted) as a 5v input.

For example, Innovate Wideband MTX-L connected to the maf 5v input. The MTX-L has a linear 5v output so you can use it in the formula y=mx+b where y is the value we want (AFR), m is the slope, x is the voltage, and b is the intercept on the X,Y graph.

1.As above, go to add custom field.
 2.Name will be WB (AFR) or WB AFR
 3.Addr (hex) will be 00001D and length will be 1 (this is the address for maf sensor voltage)
 4.Formula, so looking at our y=mx+b, we know x is voltage so we will have that as (x/50), innovate states that by default the MTX-L’s output at 0v is 7.35 AFR and 5V is 22.39AFR, we can calculate out m is 3.01 and b is 7.35. Thus what we need to put in the Formula is (3.01*(x/50))+7.35
 5.I think you can fill in the rest from here

For non-linear output, BTSSM has optional lookup tables you can put in, but using a linear output means you can also edit your current romraider logger definition file to log from the 5v inputs as well.

For reference:
 Right TGV Sensor voltage: Address is 021750 length is 2, and formula for voltage is x*0.0000762939453125
 Left TGV Sensor voltage: Address is 021744 length is 2 and formula for voltage is x*0.0000762939453125

Depending on how much I like it, I will be installing an android tablet permanently (and post another how-to) to act as a logger and full time SSM display. Only thing missing is the ability to flash maps (it is possible to flash an ecu off an android phone, look at MHD app for BMW N54 engines)

Q&A:
 1) Why BtSsm and not Torque?
 a. This is because BtSsm was designed to use the SSM protocol designed by Subaru, and in conjunction with the tactrix or the btssm module it works in SSM continuous data push mode (which means very fast). Torque can use SSM with the very expensive OBDKey but it does not operate in continuous data push mode.
 One of the sample logs I’m posting (not mine) has 19 fields to be logged, and read the samples 15-16 times per second. That is VERY FAST.
 b. BtSsm allows custom fields if you know which memory sectors to read, Torque does not.


LE: ca paranteza, nici eu nu stiu sa aiba EJ-ul sensor OEM de temp ulei ....
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« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2017, 11:04:33 AM »
Bun. O varianta buna.

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« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2017, 11:15:33 AM »
Dezgrop un topic vechi. SCO, esti multumit de kiwi? Ma tenteaza si pe mine sa-l iau mai ales ca este compatibil cu mai multe aplicatii pe android.

Si o alta intrebare pentru toti, Torque are optiunea de a lista si temperatura uleiului? Mentionez ca la mine este vizibila prin tactrix, dar nu vreau sa stau cu laptopul conecat doar pentru asta. Ma gandeam sa imi pun pe telefon si sa il tin pe un suport de parbriz.
Daca nu, ce alta aplicatie sugerati?
il mai dezgrop si eu inca o data :)
torque, cel putin in varianta free pe care o am eu, nu raporteaza temperatura uleiului. doar a antigelului.
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« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2017, 11:39:11 AM »
pentru ca EJ-ul nu are sensor de temp si presiune de ulei OEM ... (au pus pe FA in schimb, de temperatura http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=24132&stc=1&d=1357065593)

nu stiu Mihai mai sus la ce parametrii se uita in romraider, cel mai probabil sunt definitii de logger nu tocmai ok ... daca imi dai (Mihai) definitiile si CAL ID-ul de la Ecu tau le pot verifica ...
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« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2017, 11:51:27 AM »
Cam greu pentru ca nu am tactrix la mine.

O scurta cautare si confirma ce banuiam si eu, adica acelasi cod pentru antigel si ulei: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/need-help-part-number-oil-temperature-sensor-229330.html

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« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2017, 12:02:13 PM »
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« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2017, 12:27:02 PM »
Azi mi-a dat eroarea U0073 (Network - Network Electrical - ISO/SAE Controlled. Control Module Communication Bus "A" Off), care a durat fix cat am tinut cuplat device-ul blustutz OBD2. Scos, repornit motorul ... totul e asa cum trebuie.
Asadar mai dau si dude aceste mizerii. Pentru o vreme o sa renunt la el.

Renunta la interfata BT sau cel putin foloseste-o doar cand ai neaparat nevoie de ea.
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« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2017, 12:40:12 PM »
La mine-i infipta acolo de cand am masina. Niciun pom de semnalat.
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« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2017, 14:49:31 PM »
La mine-i infipta acolo de cand am masina. Niciun pom de semnalat.

Interfata asteapta cuminte prima curba in care vei avea nevoie de sistemele electronice. Atunci iti va face o surpriza.
Eu am vazut live la viteza mica, in Herastrau.

Imi propusesem acum ceva vreme sa nu mai dau deloc sfaturi. :)
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« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2017, 14:56:46 PM »
Sfaturile le dai, or else.

Sisteme electronice lipsa la inventar aici. Deci caz special si izolat.
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« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2017, 15:05:38 PM »
Injectia, admisia ?
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« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2017, 15:23:40 PM »
Credeam ca zici de esepe, tece. Nope, infipt de 4 ani in OBD2, nicio problema. Dar e posibil sa ai dreptate!
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« Reply #56 on: April 27, 2018, 12:08:31 PM »
a incercat cineva FreeSSM cu cablu banal VAG COM?
am gasit discutia asta
http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/65-parts-accessories-performance/39426-freessm-complete-access-your-ecm-tcu.html
Vreau eu sa incerc. Din pacate si exces de zel, am cumparat un cablu cu ELM 327 si apoi am citit ca nu e suportat.
Caut un VAG-COM model vechi si revin.

Altii, ati avut succes cu FreeSSM? La ce l-ati folosit?
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« Reply #57 on: April 27, 2018, 15:44:41 PM »
Eu folosesc un astfel de cablu cu FreeSSM si sunt foarte multumit de tot ce poti face cu el din pct de vedere al diagnosticarii prin OBD.
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« Reply #58 on: April 27, 2018, 17:39:29 PM »
Am comdandat si un VAG-COM 409
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« Reply #59 on: June 09, 2021, 18:15:30 PM »
Am un ELM327 si Torque.
Are cineva idee de ce dureaza sa faca conexiunea cu ECU asa mult?
Am setat protocolul manual pe ISO 14230-4 (fast init, 10.4k baud) pentru ca am observat ca pe acesta functioneaza atunci cand o face.

Dureaza mai mult de 2-3 minute conectarea.
Am incercat si cu Car Scanner (apk) dar din mai multe incercari, doar o data am reusit sa primesc date de la ECU.
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